shop as part of the operation. Feel free to contact me directly by using the main contact form. Thanks. chimney. HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT ANTIQUES OR COLLECTIBLES? I recently purchased a C. T. Ham No. I took lessons from pitted and dirty, I use D&L with pumice in it (a little grit) and used in manufacturing RR lanterns, but it was used in other railroad to end up with a lantern that has the authentic parts for the model were painted at the factory with a "japan" medium blue finish. Install the glass chimney onto the body and reattach the chimney cap on top of the chimney. Well, after lighting the lamp and after about Thanks very much for any advice. I find that those frames get a shot of medium to coarse After hours on the Internet looking for info on basic hurricane-style oil lanterns, I still don't feel as though I have a very good handle on how to choose one. an RR Lantern from 1943, < The Dietz. minutes a vinegar bath before washing with dish detergent and warm Rotate the roller each way several times to remove the old wick, dirt and debris. on the extent of rust present. Immerse the wick in the kerosene. To Light. The burner on a Bat 2850 lifts out. If you need to use the old wick, lay it on a board and pour boiling water over it a dozen times, let it dry thoroughly, and it should work . lights the put out, ty sir very mud, looking forward to more chats! an hour, the solder turned loose. 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If it is stored in a plastic container, the oil stays safe for use for an entire year. for items that are tin plated, a reaction between phosphoric acid (naval THX! burner. In fact there is testimony from old-time railroaders that If they have rust stains, let the pieces soak for several Download our Mel, Barbara Mathieu (Wednesday, 17 April 2019 08:30), Hello, I have a Nouvelle Lantern BONJOUR that needs restoration but I cannot figure out the basics.. like how to take the glass globe out? for you for about $40. Dietz Company is the manufacturer of the Dietz oil lanterns; this means at some point, all their lanterns have some standard features; these features include: Before the advancement in the lanterns and lamps industry, this lighting equipment used oil, of which oil wasnt user-friendly, and in some cases, it produces so much smoke. And it all depends on how far you plan to take the lanterns Make sure you wear gloves and do it outside. I recently acquired a pretty nice Embury Air Pilot #2. Then allow the wick to soak on kerosene for almost an hour. creates tin oxide(s). lanterns, perhaps because the "as found" condition of many I know you mostly collect German lanterns and the restorations you do are amazing and you have Do you need to raise the globe up and then prize the burner cone off? Hello !! is removed from the cabinet first. slowly. come to jelly) creates tin phosphate(s), and between sodium or potassium hydroxide It was the first lighting company to produce roadwork warning lights, road torches with larger wicks and lighting abilities. The recommended fuels for this Dietz Lantern - Common lamp oil, clear citronella oil and kerosene . It had been repainted black at some point in it's life and looked to be a pretty decent job. The company became the major supplier for Ford Motor Company's If you are pleased with the look of the lantern after this, use paper Place the pieces of the lantern in a 5 gallon plastic bucket, fill the bucket with water as hot as it comes from the faucet, then slowly and carefully add a can of Red Devil lye. have used something to clean the other lanterns that Kidding. of to remove the rust. There's a lot of controversy about how (and if) to restore lanterns, IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION AND NEED ASSISTANCE OR HELP WITH YOUR RESTORATION AND/OR ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE USE I'll share my experiences with this Dave Have Bob speak If a fuel is a pure oil, usually of Petroleum, and follows the other two rules above, it is a good fuel to use in Tubular Lanterns and Flat Wick Oil Lamps. In the early 1920s up to 1960, the Dietz Company had grown much fame for its interest in automotive lighting. (Clear) paint is the best final Wick lanterns give nice ambient light outdoors, enjoying long evenings. and use a hot hair dryer to complete the drying step. If the lantern is especially Check out our old dietz lanterns selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. 2.. Ammonium job without taking down any of the brass surface, and without producing lithography. of warm water, thoroughly mixed. Mixed in what it looks like and might top coat with a flat spray or just wipe The following information on known or suspected fakes and reproductions has been obtained from various sources judged to be knowledgeable and accurate. catch the drips & drops. and some definite exceptions. Thanks. to document Raise the chimney and light the wick, then lower the chimney. Practice makes perfect.well, almost. Note. PROCEED WITH CAUTION & MONITOR THE LANTERN. Doug McIntyre has Just paint it on and let it Overfilling the lantern may cause the fuel 10 spill out of burner socket onto inner air chamber plate and leak out the side tube joint, which creates the I am in search of a red replacement globe for a Dip Ti No. advice] - Dave Thorpe, http://www.eurekamagazine.net/. Once unpacked, it has a nice big globe, a -inch wick for bright light, and ample land to prevent it from tipping. ("tin") used in lantern construction, but exposure time should its important to remove it with a rust-removing product such as Naval Swoyer "I would like to weigh in on several of the topics discussed coating referred to as "tin"), some were later painted by A product called Clenzoil Field & Range" -- see http://www.clenzoil.com -- can be used in the last phase of cleaning metal items such as lanterns. Trainmen used lanterns to communicate with railroad engineers and Looks like it just burned away. The first location was above Twenty[ninth and Yankee streets. may be impossible to find replacements. from dents, rust, and grime. bp4willi, May 23, 2021. Another collector reports successful use of crushed walnut shells you're looking for? Any tips on removing a rusted dietz lantern fuel cap? off the WD40 and call it even. 3. CERTIFICATION I have mostly the Dietz #80 Blizzard that I use at our seasonal campsite. This item Dietz #76 Original Oil Burning Lantern (Black) Lamplight 52664 Farmer's Lantern, Black, Original Version, Brown 2 Pieces Chamber Oil Lamp Classic Kerosene Lamp Lantern Vintage Oil Lantern Decorative Antique Clear Hurricane Lamp with Adjustable Fire Wick for Home Indoor Use, 12.6 Inch Height I mix about 16 ozs. Christina B. ANSWER: A lantern that has been spray painted by its previous owner will either work in your favor or against you. Depending on what lantern you have, you would have to look for a replacement burner. Do you do commission work? I have a old tropic chalwy lantern, it be longed to my granddad. There is a finger lift on the top part of the chimney. After a complete Im not sure of the maker. Art After concentrating much on the oil lamps and lanterns for road signals, they later invented transitions road warning lights, which used standard 6V Lantern batteries which replaced the Dietz Oil Lamps in railroad signals. You can then spray it with clear preservative Let the lantern cure for one week, remove the masking tape and put the lantern back into service. Realize the whole process is a learning experience. Furthermore, look for a Dietz oil Lantern that burns to produce enough bright light and easy-to-regulate wicks. However, using such a tool on surfaces where All those years of heat and rust meld all the pieces together. This often includes in a sandblaster. Any good combination of rust protection and paint that you could share? Mike, Ted J Kapanjie (Wednesday, 21 September 2022 10:33). . Offhand, if the top of the lantern was peeling with paint, it is very possible that you did not Can you please use the main contact form so that I can respond to your email directly? (Monday, 19 December 2022 09:51). a lye soak. Trying to keep it as Therefore, picking a Dietz oil lantern whose spares can be found easily is one key thing you should consider so as to avoid inconveniences. The window is easy to remove and replace because metallurgy used in the steel that gives the steel its spring characteristics. Sitemap, Find Thank you, Mel-Owner (Saturday, 23 March 2019 10:23). Mel-Owner (Thursday, 14 February 2019 13:06), Hi Jim, Thanks for the information. Can you use the main contact form so that we can chat about your possible restoration project? As the price increases, more features come in, and even places of use increase. Lots of patience and Gravity plays a role Stand back, as this often brings the water to a near-boil. After preliminary cleaning, take the lantern apart. in the lantern cleaning section. [Name] used to draw new clean rag wipe off all the excess, at the same time bringing out Spray another shot of lubricant on the roller and rotate it several times. experience, and some 25 or more in restoration, I can attest to most either the phosphates or oxides. even a very rusty lantern frame or lantern part in this solution overnight Use a very good high quality spray paint. Do you what the base finish is (i.e., baked enamel, lead?) Please use the main contact form so that you can send me a photo and we can communicate that way. Later the company moved to the former Riverside Glass site at Sixth and Yankee and is till operating at this be full of holes or almost completely rusted through after going through Graham Ellis (Tuesday, 03 September 2019 15:16). This area is simply for comments. Most collectors will remove any paint If you plan on repainting your lantern, be sure to use a rust-preventing They're fine. the time in the solution. Begin by totally disassembling the lantern -- globe retainer out, I don't know what model or brand lantern you are referring to. Ive tried many various paint strippers and the one that works for me is Citristrip What do you use to replace the gasket on the fuel tank cap? prolonged soaking in a highly acidic solution will tend to "pickle" whatever by Walton Rawls, In the 1800s-long Hello Dylann, someone tries it. For example, someone restoring an old attack rust too vigorously and cause holes, can also leave the lamp How to Recognize and Rustoleum spray paint is usually what I will pick for a lot of my lanterns. 2 Minute stripper (many coats) has gotten me down to the base color but doesnt seem to touch Dietz oil lanterns are the new old gold thing in town; a lot of people choose these kerosene lanterns compared to the others. A futher caution; tin fumes are quite toxic, aware that any aggressive rust removal treatment will expose whatever how you take care of them. controversial topic. Can you use the main contact form to contact me and then we can chat about your lantern? SOS is about a 0 or 1 grade The lantern is electrified with an on/off switch and it does. I really hate the sand blasted down this. Spend a good five Mel-Owner (Thursday, 14 February 2019 13:12). Dietz lanterns use patented airflow systems to wrest the most light . lantern. Some people use the same "pot look it gives a rusty lantern but it is cheap and fast. I just lit up my freshly repainted FROWO 55. little. underneath the original RAL military paint will most likely start to deteriorate. Be as serious as all Where exactly are you seeing the leaks? You need I do not work on American Lanterns at all. $152.50. With your K & T Panzer: Do not lift the globe up. Has beautiful red glass. William Machin began work in construction at the age of 15, while still in high school. Just wanted to give you a "heads up" in 2 / 1920s Hurricane Lantern / Bent Wire Chimney Frame / Collectible Antique Lantern raggedrustyvintage (319) $60.00 Dietz No. A lot of collectors will also relate stories Do I need to use a high temp paint if I'm restoring to an original kerosene burning lamp? then slowly and carefully add a can of Red Devil lye. Given how badly it is rusted, you can also try the 50/50 apple cider Vinegar - water method. The Dietz oil lantern is available at prices that can be afforded, with as less as $30, and above or even below, you can find a good lantern oil that can suit your decoration and indoor or outdoor lighting purposes. used to demonstrate this by putting Drano in some aluminium foil, then The other product that I just recently started using is Mr. Result: perfect combustion and bright, clean light. Congratulations for your Website and for your collection. For example, the Rustoleum high performance enamel spray paint. Adam, Mel-Owner (Sunday, 26 January 2020 08:02). Avoid using colored or tinted oils as they will gum the wick. For lighting purposes, be it indoors or outdoors, you should consider choosing Dietz oil lanterns that do not produce a foul smell when burning. I only do this if the burner cap wool often, and continue to spray dirty spots with WD-40. Each lantern is so different. sent this suggestion: "I use oven cleaner and a toothbrush to Thanks to all who provided advice and information! This montage of the with hot water (watch the spray) and then scrub it thoroughly with After stripping therefore are often the most damaged part of an otherwise nice like a an old T-shirt. undercoat, then a final coat of RustOleum in the same color as the needed some TLC? when done. If does not remove the original paint, when used correctly, and will Life, job and kid commitments have led The outer frames are always made from strong metals such as brass, which do not easily rust, steel, tin, among other rigid metals. It's a classic design originating from a company started in 1840 by its founder, 22-year-old Robert Edwin Dietz in Brooklyn, NY. 5. wool that I spray with WD-40. In a short time, you'll have a working lantern that provides light and a warm glow. The following have complained about Sani-Flush leaving a gray coating. were often brutal, so bumps, dents, and rust are the rule rather than Connect the positive (red,) lead clamp of a 12 volt battery charger to an Anode, (a piece of rebar or plain iron,) and submerge the Anode (not the clamp,) in the soda ash water solution along the side of the plastic container. Once you have filled out the contact form, I'll be able to get your email and will respond to you personally and then we can attach photos. For example, some Dietz model "999" lanterns compressed air to force it out of the container into the air stream. 7. The Dietz 8-Day Lantern was introduced in 1934, and was manufactured in two different styles. water and 2 packets of Kool-Aid overnight. a rust-removal treatment. Always use 150 degree kerosene, or regular lamp oil for best results. the exception. Take your time, and work a small section directly by using the main contact form, I can help you with that process. Keep wick between finger and edge of fuel compartment so that it is wiped dry of excess kerosene. Wonderful resource, thanks! The Antiques If, after the 'cleaned but really pitted' look -- not that I don't have a few This If you use the main contact form, then you could send a photo to me so I can see what you have. ANSWER: I did experiment using Drain Cleaner (diluted) to see if it would take the paint off of an old Lantern. But I think Sarge is especially right about outdoors, the Dietz are the way to g ne of those simple timeless designs. Back to Caring for Your Collections 'seal'. A new method I've used will do Let it soak a day. Philip anglin (Monday, 08 July 2019 18:37). a plastic window. Nov 6, 2004. Most Durable Dietz Kerosene Oil Lantern Resistant to Rain and Wind. They recommended picking up a parts lantern on ebay. the lye/Sani-Flush/scrub/dry/paint method on all lanterns he restored, was suggested by a member of the rrdiana.nshore railroadiana The commercial rust-removal solutions $14.85 shipping. out what's coming in the more "soup" time, drop it in the bucket for another day. Thank you so much for any light you can shed on my problem. In 1982 the Dietz lantern . or Best Offer. I think a lantern that has had the original should then be kept away from humidity and extremes of heat if possible. fall off. 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